Research Forum
Pure veganism is something I NEVER will support
Quote from Dr. Garrett Smith on March 29, 2019, 1:51 pmHumans were never designed to be total vegans. This is obvious to anyone who understands why humans have forward-facing eyes (predator setup) and lots of stomach acid. Humans are able to digest plant foods adequately, not that well though, so a vegan diet doesn't really work long-term for humans.
Vegans get problems with Poison/"Vitamin A" in particular, for several very specific reasons that have to do with the body's ability to make Retinol-Binding Protein. This is the very protein that your liver and tissues make to PROTECT your tissues (particularly your eyes, skin, and nervous system) from the damaging effects of Poison/"Vitamin A"...this isn't even getting into the obscene amounts of carotenoid Poison/"Vitamin A" that most vegans trying to "Eat a Rainbow" are likely consuming. Here is how a vegan diet falls short in terms of what the body needs from the diet to make RBP:
- We need enough dietary PROTEIN in order to be able to make RBP. There is simply not enough absolute protein (and easily digestible protein) on a vegan diet. I have set the absolute minimum protein requirement on the Poison/"Vitamin A" and Glyphosate Detox Program to be 50 grams of protein or more per day. This is not easy to hit on a vegan diet. Also, when you watch the videos below (please do) and see the muscle mass of the vegan dieters steadily decrease over time, it should become obvious that they are lacking something necessary for muscle...probably usable protein.
- We need enough dietary ZINC in order to be able to make RBP. Do vegan and vegetarian diets show that people get enough zinc? NO! "Dietary zinc intakes and serum zinc concentrations were significantly lower (-0.88 ± 0.15 mg day(-1), P < 0.001 and -0.93 ± 0.27 µmol L(-1), P = 0.001 respectively; mean ± standard error) in populations that followed habitual vegetarian diets compared with non-vegetarians. Secondary analyses showed greater impact of vegetarian diets on the zinc intake and status of females, vegetarians from developing countries and vegans. Populations that habitually consume vegetarian diets have low zinc intakes and status."
- We need enough Vitamin E to make RBP. Studies have shown that not only does 93% of the American population not get enough Vitamin E in their diet on a daily basis, but vegetarians and vegans have been shown to be even lower than omnivorous eaters: "Significantly lower concentration of serum vitamin E in vegetarian children in comparison to nonvegetarians may be reflected with statistically significant lowering of total antioxidant status."
These KNOWN problematic patterns with a vegan diet--excessive carotenoid intake combined with the super-common nutritional deficiencies above--and the case studies on Poison/"Vitamin A" toxicity I've posted many times about vegetarians and vegans causing it in themselves, shows that there are major problems.
All that said, I don't think the pure Carnivore Diet--I mean the muscle-meat-only, salt, water version and nothing else--is going to end up as great long-term as well as some advocates say either...although it does have an extremely low Poison/"Vitamin A" content going for it. It seems that Carnivore Diet advocates are quite frightened to show their ferritin values after being on the diet a long time. I've seen this, or should I say I haven't seen it (ferritin) from multiple Carnivore advocates now. It would only make sense that an all-beef diet would end up in iron overload, for multiple reasons.
Short-term, some big health problems may go away on a vegan diet, or a pure Carnivore diet. That's great! If your car is out of alignment and always pulls to the left, and you constantly have to drive by pulling the steering wheel to the right, you can get around. What happens when the alignment gets worse and worse due to not being fixed? You eventually can't turn correctly any longer, and you crash because of it. Misalignments, or imbalances, if not corrected will eventually topple anyone. Long-term, the problems of balance in the diet will become more obvious for both approaches. Humans have mixed features in terms of meat and plant digestion, therefore I'm of the opinion that we should have mixed diets. Seems pretty straightforward to me. We are omnivores, that's how we are able to live just about anywhere on the planet on the foods available. Unbalanced approaches lead to unbalanced results, and a mixed digestive system would do best on a mixed diet!
An important saying of mine is: "Your physiology doesn't care what your philosophy is." I am after results above all. The men who started using hair mineral analysis to guide nutritional treatment approaches (Eck and Watts), would not even take on clients if they didn't consume animal protein foods at least 2-3 times a week, because they knew that they would not be able to get them better with this gaping hole in their nutrition. Because I'm always after results, and because the proof of anything is in the pudding, as they say...let's watch these videos of real-life vegans (raw or otherwise) and see their degradation over time. A sure sign of malnutrition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
Vegans will not be successful long-term on foods alone. Many of the superfoods in the vegan world are outrageously high in Poison/"Vitamin A" (algaes, seaweeds, spirulina, anyone?). It would need significant supplementation to make it work at all long-term. Results are everything, theory is NOTHING.
Humans were never designed to be total vegans. This is obvious to anyone who understands why humans have forward-facing eyes (predator setup) and lots of stomach acid. Humans are able to digest plant foods adequately, not that well though, so a vegan diet doesn't really work long-term for humans.
Vegans get problems with Poison/"Vitamin A" in particular, for several very specific reasons that have to do with the body's ability to make Retinol-Binding Protein. This is the very protein that your liver and tissues make to PROTECT your tissues (particularly your eyes, skin, and nervous system) from the damaging effects of Poison/"Vitamin A"...this isn't even getting into the obscene amounts of carotenoid Poison/"Vitamin A" that most vegans trying to "Eat a Rainbow" are likely consuming. Here is how a vegan diet falls short in terms of what the body needs from the diet to make RBP:
- We need enough dietary PROTEIN in order to be able to make RBP. There is simply not enough absolute protein (and easily digestible protein) on a vegan diet. I have set the absolute minimum protein requirement on the Poison/"Vitamin A" and Glyphosate Detox Program to be 50 grams of protein or more per day. This is not easy to hit on a vegan diet. Also, when you watch the videos below (please do) and see the muscle mass of the vegan dieters steadily decrease over time, it should become obvious that they are lacking something necessary for muscle...probably usable protein.
- We need enough dietary ZINC in order to be able to make RBP. Do vegan and vegetarian diets show that people get enough zinc? NO! "Dietary zinc intakes and serum zinc concentrations were significantly lower (-0.88 ± 0.15 mg day(-1), P < 0.001 and -0.93 ± 0.27 µmol L(-1), P = 0.001 respectively; mean ± standard error) in populations that followed habitual vegetarian diets compared with non-vegetarians. Secondary analyses showed greater impact of vegetarian diets on the zinc intake and status of females, vegetarians from developing countries and vegans. Populations that habitually consume vegetarian diets have low zinc intakes and status."
- We need enough Vitamin E to make RBP. Studies have shown that not only does 93% of the American population not get enough Vitamin E in their diet on a daily basis, but vegetarians and vegans have been shown to be even lower than omnivorous eaters: "Significantly lower concentration of serum vitamin E in vegetarian children in comparison to nonvegetarians may be reflected with statistically significant lowering of total antioxidant status."
These KNOWN problematic patterns with a vegan diet--excessive carotenoid intake combined with the super-common nutritional deficiencies above--and the case studies on Poison/"Vitamin A" toxicity I've posted many times about vegetarians and vegans causing it in themselves, shows that there are major problems.
All that said, I don't think the pure Carnivore Diet--I mean the muscle-meat-only, salt, water version and nothing else--is going to end up as great long-term as well as some advocates say either...although it does have an extremely low Poison/"Vitamin A" content going for it. It seems that Carnivore Diet advocates are quite frightened to show their ferritin values after being on the diet a long time. I've seen this, or should I say I haven't seen it (ferritin) from multiple Carnivore advocates now. It would only make sense that an all-beef diet would end up in iron overload, for multiple reasons.
Short-term, some big health problems may go away on a vegan diet, or a pure Carnivore diet. That's great! If your car is out of alignment and always pulls to the left, and you constantly have to drive by pulling the steering wheel to the right, you can get around. What happens when the alignment gets worse and worse due to not being fixed? You eventually can't turn correctly any longer, and you crash because of it. Misalignments, or imbalances, if not corrected will eventually topple anyone. Long-term, the problems of balance in the diet will become more obvious for both approaches. Humans have mixed features in terms of meat and plant digestion, therefore I'm of the opinion that we should have mixed diets. Seems pretty straightforward to me. We are omnivores, that's how we are able to live just about anywhere on the planet on the foods available. Unbalanced approaches lead to unbalanced results, and a mixed digestive system would do best on a mixed diet!
An important saying of mine is: "Your physiology doesn't care what your philosophy is." I am after results above all. The men who started using hair mineral analysis to guide nutritional treatment approaches (Eck and Watts), would not even take on clients if they didn't consume animal protein foods at least 2-3 times a week, because they knew that they would not be able to get them better with this gaping hole in their nutrition. Because I'm always after results, and because the proof of anything is in the pudding, as they say...let's watch these videos of real-life vegans (raw or otherwise) and see their degradation over time. A sure sign of malnutrition.
Vegans will not be successful long-term on foods alone. Many of the superfoods in the vegan world are outrageously high in Poison/"Vitamin A" (algaes, seaweeds, spirulina, anyone?). It would need significant supplementation to make it work at all long-term. Results are everything, theory is NOTHING.
Licensed Naturopathic Physician (NMD) in Arizona
NutritionDetective.com, home of the Love Your Liver program
YouTube - FaceBook - Instagram - Twitter
Quote from nutr on October 17, 2019, 10:12 amAbove videos show bad examples of vegans. What about good examples of people following plant-based diets such as the dozens of high-performing athletes featured in the documentary "The Game Changers" (2018), many of whom are vegans and have been so for many years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM
Above videos show bad examples of vegans. What about good examples of people following plant-based diets such as the dozens of high-performing athletes featured in the documentary "The Game Changers" (2018), many of whom are vegans and have been so for many years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpglxHTJVM
Quote from Jordan Herrera on August 14, 2020, 7:25 amWell written article Garrett. I was vegan for a couple years and it was very hard on my body. I experienced increased tooth decay and developed the "autoimmune" condition vitiligo. I also became concerningly underweight, to the point where my girlfriend at the time even commented on it. Thankfully I am not blind to reality and realized I had believed a lie.
It is almost impossible to be healthy without including animal foods in the diet. Unsurprisingly, the only account I know of somebody doing it successfully was on an all beans/lintels diet!
Note: the King James uses classical definitions of words. In the Bible, "meat" simply means food, and "pulse" refers to seeds that grow within a pod, such as beans and lentils. You can see an example of pulse defined in 2 Samuel 17:28 (*parched* pulse is being distinguished from the raw beans and lentils mentioned earlier in the verse)
Daniel 1:5-16
5 And the king appointed them a daily provision of the king's meat, and of the wine which he drank: so nourishing them three years, that at the end thereof they might stand before the king.
6 Now among these were of the children of Judah, Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah:
7 Unto whom the prince of the eunuchs gave names: for he gave unto Daniel the name of Belteshazzar; and to Hananiah, of Shadrach; and to Mishael, of Meshach; and to Azariah, of Abednego.
8 But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.
9 Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.
10 And the prince of the eunuchs said unto Daniel, I fear my lord the king, who hath appointed your meat and your drink: for why should he see your faces worse liking than the children which are of your sort? then shall ye make me endanger my head to the king.
11 Then said Daniel to Melzar, whom the prince of the eunuchs had set over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,
12 Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat, and water to drink.
13 Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and the countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's meat: and as thou seest, deal with thy servants.
14 So he consented to them in this matter, and proved them ten days.
15 And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat.
16 Thus Melzar took away the portion of their meat, and the wine that they should drink; and gave them pulse.
Well written article Garrett. I was vegan for a couple years and it was very hard on my body. I experienced increased tooth decay and developed the "autoimmune" condition vitiligo. I also became concerningly underweight, to the point where my girlfriend at the time even commented on it. Thankfully I am not blind to reality and realized I had believed a lie.
It is almost impossible to be healthy without including animal foods in the diet. Unsurprisingly, the only account I know of somebody doing it successfully was on an all beans/lintels diet!
Note: the King James uses classical definitions of words. In the Bible, "meat" simply means food, and "pulse" refers to seeds that grow within a pod, such as beans and lentils. You can see an example of pulse defined in 2 Samuel 17:28 (*parched* pulse is being distinguished from the raw beans and lentils mentioned earlier in the verse)
Daniel 1:5-16
5 And the king appointed them a daily provision of the king's meat, and of the wine which he drank: so nourishing them three years, that at the end thereof they might stand before the king.
6 Now among these were of the children of Judah, Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah:
7 Unto whom the prince of the eunuchs gave names: for he gave unto Daniel the name of Belteshazzar; and to Hananiah, of Shadrach; and to Mishael, of Meshach; and to Azariah, of Abednego.
8 But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.
9 Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.
10 And the prince of the eunuchs said unto Daniel, I fear my lord the king, who hath appointed your meat and your drink: for why should he see your faces worse liking than the children which are of your sort? then shall ye make me endanger my head to the king.
11 Then said Daniel to Melzar, whom the prince of the eunuchs had set over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,
12 Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat, and water to drink.
13 Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and the countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's meat: and as thou seest, deal with thy servants.
14 So he consented to them in this matter, and proved them ten days.
15 And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat.
16 Thus Melzar took away the portion of their meat, and the wine that they should drink; and gave them pulse.